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Jill's response to Salvation.
All religions were created after the great
teachers left the earth (Christ, Buddha, Krishna etc). Many of them
focus on the fear of God, propaganda, rules and rituals. They do this to
the point that people stop thinking for themselves and follow the flock. I
see that many of those religions have some kind of truth in them but also
added man made laws as well. I think, we as human beings are to
search inside ourselves to find the answers to the purpose of life and
our existence.
Here is something Christians should think about.
For example, in Ephesians 4.6 it says God is in ALL, and that says
ALL. As in ALL people etc. Well if God is in all why would God
want to send a part of itself to some place of torment? ("hell")
Why would God want to judge, condemn or punish a part of itself? Wouldn't
that be like slapping the self to death with both hands, or slapping your right
hand with your left hand? The great spirit, the creator, the force
behind creation, whatever name one wishes to call it, is the intelligence behind
creation, right? If you were God, would it be an intelligent thing to
do, to place a part of yourself in creation (humans) only to set
up a place of torment for a part of yourself? Would you say that is even
intelligent? lol. To me that would be like setting up a "boobie
trap" to catch yourself in. lol
Another verse in the Bible,1John 4.7 says God is
love. Here is what love says in 1Corinthians 13.4-8. In short. LOVE
DOESN'T KEEP A RECORD OF WRONGS, LOVE IS ETERNAL. From pointing out those
verses in the Bible isn't this an indication that God doesn't keep a record of
people's mistakes (wrongs)? After all it says God is LOVE- (as stated
in john 4). From stating all of the above, how could salvation, and
hell for that matter, even exist? Why would we need to "save"
ourselves if God is already in us? Saying "we need to be saved"
would be like saying a part of God needs to save itself From what?
Itself? lol Hope that wasn't too confusing. lol..
I think if we look at the bigger picture in creation,
if God is in all of us, then we are not separate from God at all. Just
like the rainbow is made up of different colours but all part of the whole.
So how could Christians say "we need to be saved to get to God."
When God has been inside them, and us, all this time.
Thanks Mike.
Thanks Jill. You raise
another "unbelievable contradiction" which I will add to the section
so named. I raise the matter briefly in the section Forgiveness.
You also raise an interesting point on the sexual nature of God. Is God an
it, he or she. For those who persist with the notion of a male God, I
suppose they want to imagine a God with all the sexual genitalia of a man.
Ridiculous isn't it. I've heard so many Christians jump down people's
throats for calling God an it when they own belief system classifies him as a
spirit creature. I'm not sure what a spirit being would need the tackle
for?
I think the classification of
God opens more areas for problems than it answers questions. This is the
case with the LOVE topic. The enormous contradiction of an "all
loving" God opens the flood gates, especially when there is the counter
doctrine of hell eternal punishment etc. I don't have a problem with
punishment, but eternal punishment. If God is supposed to be just then
where is the justice in eternal punishment for temporal crimes. It's like
condemning your own child to life in prison for them speaking back to you.
I agree with using the Bible to
help Christians see their own mistruths but would seriously refrain from using
it as a guide book to reveal hidden truths. It does contain truths but
much of it is untrue. That sounds like a riddle. A truth can be
contained in a story that is not true. For example the boy and the wolf
story may be untrue, but it does contain a truth about trust. Hope that is
clear.
Since the topic of salvation is
so crucial (from the word Cross), there is so much more to discuss. I'll
look forward to more in the near future.
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