This couple came from Sancreed, Cornwall, where the Sancreed Online Parish Clerk has kindly transcribed the old parish registers and made the information available on the internet. This is my only source of information for events from before the 1841 census, and matching baptism records with subsequent marriage or burial records involves a certain amount of guesswork. But some plausible facts emerge.
The parents of Sarah Harvey were Thomas Harvey and Sarah Lanyon, who were married at Sancreed on 14/8/1795. The 1841 census records for Sancreed show a Thomas and Sally Harvey, both aged 65, living at Trannack. Thomas was a farmer. There was one other person in their household: a five year old child named Elizabeth Grenfell, who I believe was their granddaughter. To maximize possible confusion for the genealogist, there was another 65 year old farmer named Thomas Harvey with a wife named Sarah living at nearby St Buryan; probably these people were the Thomas Harvey and Sarah Mitchell who were married at St Levan on 22/3/1800. (Note that the parish register entry for this marriage records that the groom's residence was St Buryan.)
A tinner named Richard Harvey and a Catharine Harvey of Buryan were married at Sancreed on 1/6/1762. They had the following children, baptized on the indicated dates: Richard (28/2/1763), Grace (21/10/1764), Catharine (3/8/1766), Samuel (12/6/1768), Thomas (7/10/1770) and Samuel (17/11/1773). It is perhaps possible that this Thomas is the one who married Sarah Lanyon in 1795, although he would have already been over 70 on census day in 1841. The 1841 census does not show any Thomas Harveys aged over 70 in this part of Cornwall; nevertheless, there is a Sancreed burial record dated 23/4/1845 for a Thomas Harvey who was aged 77 at his death. I think it quite likely that this man was the son of Richard the tinner, and unclear whether or not he was also Sarah Lanyon's husband.
I have been unable to locate any likely baptism record for Sarah Lanyon. The Sancreed Parish Register contains many entries for people named Lanyon, but no baptisms of Sarah Lanyons. There were Sarah Lanyons baptized in Madron and in St Buryan in 1769, but they would both have been over 70 in 1841. Besides that, the fact that the Sarah we are interested in was married in Sancreed suggests to me that she was born in Sancreed.
A Sarah Harvey of Trannack died in 1846 and was buried on 23/4/1846. The burial record gives her age as 63, but this must be a transcription error.
There are Sancreed baptism records for the following children whose parents were named Thomas and Sarah Harvey:
There was also a Mary Bosustow Harvey with parents named Thomas and Sarah baptized on 10/6/1800 at St Levan, but I presume that her parents were the couple married at St Levan on 22/3/1800 rather than the couple married in Sancreed in 1795.
I do not know whether Elizabeth and Richard were twins, or merely baptized on the same day. The general impression I get by comparing baptism dates with ages given in census returns is that in Cornwall at this time most children were baptized when only a few weeks old; nevertheless, there were many who were not baptized until older. The census returns tell me that Elizabeth was 40 in 1841, 55 in 1851 and 64 in 1861, while Richard was 45 in 1841, 54 in 1851, 64 in 1861, 74 in 1871 and 84 in 1881. Elizabeth's burial record, from 11/7/1865, gives her age as 70, while Richard's burial record, from 24/5/1882, gives his age as 84. It is actually possible that Richard's ages were correctly reported on each occasion: if so, his date of birth would have been in very late May or very early June in 1796, quite an appropriate time given that his parents were married in August 1795. In any event I think it is reasonably certain that Richard was born in middle or late 1796, so that if Elizabeth was not his twin then she must have been the older of the two. The various records of Elizabeth's age are inconsistent with each other, and there is not really enough evidence to be confident, but I am inclined to think that they were twins.
Elizabeth
Elizabeth married John Casley at Sancreed on 8/3/1834. The parish register records that the groom was from the parish of St Just, the bride from Sancreed. The witnesses were Richard Harvey – surely the bride's brother – and John Grenfell. I presume that this was the John Grenfell who married Elizabeth's younger sister Catherine one month later.
Census records from 1841 and 1851 show John and Elizabeth Casley living in St Just parish with a daughter named Elizabeth. John was a tin miner. His age in 1851 is given as 47 and his place of birth as St Just; so it appears highly likely that he was the son of Thomas and Mary Casley baptized at St Just on 3/10/1803. I also think it likely that he can be identified with the John Casley who died in 1859 and was buried at St Just on 15/6/1859. Although the burial record gives his age as 57, which is too high, it also gives his residence as Bosavern, which is the same as his address as given in the 1841 census.
The IGI includes the baptism at St Just of Elizabeth Casley, daughter of John and Elizabeth, on 25/3/1834. This is in agreement with the 1851 census record, which gives her age as 17. She married William Casley at St Just on 4/8/1860. The marriage record tells us that the bride was 26, residing at Bosavern, that her father was named John Casley and was a miner, and that the groom was a 24 year old farmer, residing at Kelynack, son of Thomas William Casley who was also a farmer. The 1861 and 1871 households of William and Elizabeth Casley were as follows.
| 12 Kelynack, St Just, 1861: | |||||
| Name | Rel | Status | Age | Occupation | Birthplace | William Casley | Head | M | 25 | Farmer Of 24 Acres Emp 1 Boy | St Just, Cornwall | Elizabeth Casley | Wife | M | 26 | St Just, Cornwall | Elizabeth Casley | Ma-Law | W | 64 | Formerly Tin Miners Wife | Sancreed, Cornwall | John Grenfell | Boarder | U | 18 | Tin Dresser | St Just, Cornwall | John George | Servant | 13 | Farm Serv & Carter | Sennen, Cornwall |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kelynack, St Just, 1871: | |||||
| Name | Rel | Status | Age | Occupation | Birthplace | William Casley | Head | M | 35 | Farmer Of 24 Acres | St Just, Cornwall | Elizabeth Casley | Wife | M | 37 | St Just, Cornwall | Elizabeth A Casley | Dau | 9 | Scholar | St Just, Cornwall | George Casley | Son | 7 | Scholar | St Just, Cornwall | Sarah Casley | Dau | 5 | Scholar | St Just, Cornwall | John Casley | Son | 2 | St Just, Cornwall | John Grenfell | Boarder | U | 30 | Tin Miner | St Just, Cornwall | George Harry | Servant | 14 | Farm Servant Indoor | St Just, Cornwall |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
The John Grenfell here was a nephew of Elizabeth Casley senior (William's mother-in-law). I have been unable to determine if George Harry was related to the Matthew Harry who married Elizabeth Harvey, daughter of Elizabeth Casley's brother Thomas.
Elizabeth died in 1765: she was buried at St Just on 11/7/1865.
Richard
Richard married Grace Roberts at St Levan on 19/1/1828. The witnesses were Henry Roberts and Thomas Harvey. Grace was probably the Grace Harvey Roberts, daughter of John and Catherine Roberts, who was baptized at St Levan on 4/11/1798; the witness Henry Roberts was probably her brother, who was baptized on 7/11/1804. The witness Thomas Harvey could have been the groom's father or brother.
Richard and Grace had the following children: William (31/3/1828), Nanny Roberts (10/5/1829), Richard (23/5/1831), Thomas (18/1/1833), Sarah (19/10/1834), Henry (9/3/1836) and Joseph (23/5/1841). It seems likely that the first-born, William, died in infancy, since an infant William Harvey was buried on 24/6/1828 at Sancreed. At the 1841 census the other children are all found in their parents' household at Trannack, Sancreed. At the 1851 census the household was as follows.
| Trannack, Sancreed, 1851: | |||||
| Name | Rel | Status | Age | Occupation | Birthplace | Richard Harvey | Head | M | 54 | Farm 19 Acres Of Land | Sancreed, Cornwall | Grace Harvey | Wife | M | 52 | St Levan, Cornwall | Richard Harvey | Son | U | 19 | Labourer On The Farm | Sancreed, Cornwall | Thomas Harvey | Son | U | 18 | Labourer On The Farm | Sancreed, Cornwall | Henry Harvey | Son | U | 12 | Labourer On The Farm | Sancreed, Cornwall | Joseph Harvey | Son | U | 10 | Scholar | Sancreed, Cornwall |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
I cannot locate Nanny Harvey in the 1851 census, but she is back in 1861. Her age is given as 27, although in fact she was at least 31. In 1871 Richard, Grace and Nanny are living at Grumbler, Sancreed; Richard is now a retired farmer, and Nanny is merely 35 years old. Grace died in 1871, and was buried on 30/10/1871. Nanny married John Rowe in the June quarter of 1873, and at the 1881 census John Rowe's household (at 3 Trevedran, St Buryan) includes his 84 year old father-in-law Richard Harvey. Nanny Rowe was only 40 years old in 1881! Richard Harvey died in 1882, and was buried on 24/5/1882 at Sancreed.
Thomas
Thomas Harvey married Maria Osborn at Madron on 25/12/1830. At the 1841 census his household was as follows.
| Trannack, Sancreed, 1841: | |||||
| Name | Age | Occupation | Thos Harvey | 35 | Farmer | Mary Harvey | 40 | Catharine Harvey | 10 | Hannah Harvey | 7 | Mary Harvey | 5 | Elizth Harvey | 2 | Mary Osborn | 75 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
The age given for Thomas is not consistent with his baptism in 1798, but the 1851 census record gives his age 53, which does match the baptism.
| Trannack, Sancreed, 1851: | |||||
| Name | Rel | Status | Age | Occupation | Birthplace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Harvey | Head | M | 53 | Farm 14 Acres | Sancreed, Cornwall |
| Maria Harvey | Wife | M | 55 | Penzance, Cornwall | |
| Elizabeth Harvey | Daughter | 12 | Sancreed, Cornwall | ||
There are Sancreed baptism records for the following children of Thomas and Maria: Anna Maria (28/10/1832), Mary (18/5/1834) and Louisa (6/5/1836). In each case the family's residence is given as Ennestreven and Thomas' occupation as Farmer or Landholder. Google maps show me that Ennestreven Farm and Trannack are close to one another; so I think it is possible that the address given in the census record refers to the same place as that given in the baptism records. I suppose that Hannah of the 1841 census can be identified with Anna Maria of the baptism, and that she was actually 8 rather than 7 in 1841. Similarly, Mary was 6 rather than 5. Louisa died in infancy and was buried on 20/7/1836.
FreeBMD shows marriages of three Catherine Harveys registered in Penzance between 1845 and 1860, but in each case the IGI or the Cornwall Online Parish Clerks provide enough information to show that the bride was not the daughter of Thomas and Maria. There was an unmarried 20 year old servant named Catherine Harvey living in Sancreed in 1851, in the household of one Thomas Thomas, and the death of a Catherine Harvey was registered in Penzance in the December quarter of 1853. Whether or not this was the daughter of Thomas and Maria I cannot say; however, I prefer to hope that she was the otherwise mysterious Catharine Odgers who was a witness at the marriage of her sister Mary in 1856.
I cannot locate Anna Maria Harvey in the 1851 census, but she married William Rodda in the December quarter of 1854. At the 1861 census her son, Thomas Harvey Rodda, is found in the household of his grandparents Thomas and Maria, at Trannack. The 1871 census shows William and Hannah Rodda, with a family of 8 children, living at 7 Stanford Terrace, Penzance. William is a butcher, as are his eldest two sons, Thomas (16) and Francis (15). The other children are William (12), Alfred (11), John (10), Elizabeth (7), Mary (2) and James (5m).
Mary Harvey married George Pownell Lawry, a "wagoner" of Phillack, on 6/9/1856. At the 1861 census their household was as follows.
| St Erth, 1861: | |||||
| Name | Rel | Status | Age | Occupation | Birthplace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| George P Lawrey | Head | M | 33 | Carter | Penryn, Cornwall |
| Mary Lawrey | Wife | M | 28 | Sancreed, Cornwall | |
| George D Lawrey | Son | 4 | Phillick, Cornwall | ||
| Mary B Lawrey | Dau | 2 | Phillick, Cornwall | ||
| William Lawrey | Son | 1w | St Erth, Cornwall | ||
The daughter Mary and the son William both died in 1862: Mary was buried on 12/11/1862 and William was buried on 7/11/1862. George and Mary subsequently had two more children named William and Mary, who at the 1871 census were aged 8 and 6 respectively.
Thomas and Maria's youngest daughter, Elizabeth, married Matthew Harry, a cordwainer, on 28/6/1860. They had two children before Matthew died in 1864. In the December quarter of 1868 Elizabeth married Richard Matthews, and at the 1871 census the Matthews household was as follows.
| Trannack, Sancreed, 1871: | |||||
| Name | Rel | Status | Age | Occupation | Birthplace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard Matthews | Head | M | 27 | Tin Miner | St Just, Cornwall |
| Elizabeth J Matthews | Wife | M | 32 | Sancreed, Cornwall | |
| Thomas Harry | Sonlaw | 10 | Scbolar | Sancreed, Cornwall | |
| Mary Steph Harry | Daulaw | 8 | Scbolar | Sancreed, Cornwall | |
| Elizabeth Matthews | Dau | 3 | Sancreed, Cornwall | ||
| Richard Matthews | Son | 1 | Sancreed, Cornwall | ||
| Mary Matthews | Mother | 67 | St Levan, Cornwall | ||
William
I do not know what became of William, the son of Thomas and Sarah Harvey baptized on 28/3/1801. Possibly he was the William Harvey who was buried at Sancreed on 26/4/1818, although he would actually have been 17 rather than 16.
Sarah
Sarah married Richard James at Sancreed on 6/11/1825. The witness's were Sarah's brother and sister Richard and Elizabeth Harvey. Richard, Sarah and family are discussed below.
Catherine
Catherine married John Grenfell, of St Just, at Sancreed on 5/4/1834. The witnesses were the bride's brothers Richard and Thomas. By 1841 John and Catherine had five children: a 5 year old daughter named Elizabeth who was in the household of her grandparents Thomas and Sarah Harvey on census night 1841, and four others who were at home.
| Nancherrow Terrace, St Just, 1841: | |||||
| Name | Age | Occupation | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John Grenfell | 35 | Carpenter | |||
| Catherine Grenfell | 35 | ||||
| Elizabeth Grenfell | 78 | ||||
| Jane Grenfell | 7 | ||||
| Catherine Grenfell | 4 | ||||
| Eliza Grenfell | 3 | ||||
| John Grenfell | 8m | ||||
| Richard Angwin | 19 | Mason | |||
| John Rowling | 23 | Miner In Tin | |||
A 39 year old John Grenfell was buried at St Just on 18/1/1843. I conjecture that this was Catherine's husband, and that after his death she returned to Sancreed, but died there in October 1843. Although the St Just burial record (for the date 25/10/1843) does not give her age, it gives her residence as Sancreed. At the 1851 census the children were scattered: Jane was still residing at Nancherrow, St Just, she was a lodger in the household of one James Eddy, her occupation being "copper ore dresser"; Elizabeth was a domestic servant, visiting her sister Jane in Jame's Eddy's household on census day; Catherine was a general servant on the household of a mason named John Chudleigh at Madron; Eliza and John were in the Penzance Union House at Madron, described as pauper scholars (their surname recorded as Grenfells rather than Grenfell). As mentioned above, 1861 and 1871 census records show John Grenfell as a boarder in the household William and Elizabeth Casley. In 1861 there is a 23 year old cook named Eliza Grenfell in the household of one William Arthur Glasson at Madron, but I have been unable to trace Eliza further than that. Catherine married John Matthews at St Just on 14/8/1864, while Elizabeth married John Jenkin at Madron on 13/8/1864. Jane remained unmarried until the September quarter of 1879, when she married a widower named Thomas Stanley.
Richard James was baptized at Sancreed on 9/2/1801; his parents were named John and Elizabeth. It seems that he had an elder brother named John who was baptized on 20/7/1794, and no other siblings. It is possible that their parents were the John James and Elizabeth Rowe who were married at Sancreed on 23/11/1793, although the parish register says that this John was "of Madron". While it is quite possible that this couple went to live in Madron after their marriage, it is also possible that they stayed in Sancreed. Perhaps John James of Madron had moved permanently to Sancreed shortly before his marriage. Moreover, as we shall see below, there is perhaps some circumstantial evidence that the John James who was the father of Richard was related by marriage to the Rowes of Sancreed.
The Sancreed parish register has baptisms for only two Elizabeth Row(e)s between 1750 and 1787: Richard and Jane Row had a daughter named Elizabeth baptized on 16/6/1767, and William and Anne Row had a daughter named Elizabeth baptized on 3/6/1770. Of course there may have been others of the same name born in Sancreed in this time interval, but we can hope that there were not too many. As well as the Elizabeth Rowe who married John James, there were two other Elizabeth Rowe's married in Sancreed between 1780 and 1810: one of them married Thomas Trevail on 23/9/1786, the other married Hugh Foss on 7/2/1801. Elizabeth Trevail's burial record from 4/3/1824 gives her age as 64, probably too old to be the Elizabeth Row baptized in 1767. Elizabeth Foss's burial record from 9/9/1827 gives her age as 56, too young to have been baptized in 1767. Maybe Elizabeth Foss was actually 57 when she died, and was the daughter of William and Ann Row. In any event, I conjecture that the Elizabeth Rowe who married John James was the daughter of Richard and Jane Row baptized in 1767.
Richard and Jane Row had other children: Richard (17/8/1754), Richard (19/9/1756), Jane (21/9/1759), Mary (22/8/1762) and John (22/3/1765). This John Row was probably the 81 year old John Rowe who died in 1844, buried at Sancreed on 17/11/1844. The 1841 census shows him living at Trerice, Sancreed, his age given as 75 and his occupation as "independent". The others in his household are Sarah Rowe (45), Eliza Rowe (30), Richard Rowe (35, a farmer), Mary Rowe (35), Mary Rowe (3) and Philip Hosken (15, a servant). Baptism records exist for Sarah Rowe (20/5/1792), Eliza Rowe (4/1/1807) and Richard Rowe (18/12/1803); in each case the parents' names were John and Elizabeth. Living in an adjacent household at Trerice in 1841 we find a 35 year old shoe maker named James Rowe and his family; there was a James Rowe, son of John and Elizabeth, baptized on 17/6/1804. The interesting thing is that another household adjacent to John Rowe's contains Richard and Sarah James and family.
| Trerice, Sancreed Parish, 1841: | |||||
| Name | Sex | Age | Occupation | Birthplace | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richd James | M | 40 | Farmer | Cornwall | |
| Sarah James | F | 35 | Cornwall | ||
| Elizth James | F | 14 | Cornwall | ||
| Sally James | F | 12 | Cornwall | ||
| Mary James | F | 10 | Cornwall | ||
| Catherine James | F | 8 | Cornwall | ||
| John James | M | 6 | Cornwall | ||
| Richard James | M | 4 | Cornwall | ||
| William James | M | 2 | Cornwall | ||
| Thos James | M | 6m | Cornwall | ||
| John James | M | 70 | Ind | Cornwall | |
So according to my theory Richard James was essentially living next door to his uncle John Rowe.
It seems reasonable to assume that the 70 year old John James in Richard James' 1841 household was his father, and hence – if my guesses are correct – the brother-in-law of John Rowe living next door. (Because 1841 census ages were rounded down, John James may have actually been as old as 74.) I guess that Richard's mother was the 71 year old Elizabeth James of Sellan who was buried at Sancreed on 25/1/1838; this is quite compatible with the baptism date of 16/6/1767. Note however, that there were one or two other similarly aged women named Elizabeth James in Sancreed at this time: in Sancreed between 1788 and 1811 there were fourteen baptisms of children whose parents were named Thomas and Elizabeth James, and there were marriages in 1787 and 1794 in which the groom was named Thomas James and the bride's forename was Elizabeth. It is quite possible that Richard's mother was the 72 year old Elizabeth James buried at Sancreed on 22/1/1837.
John Rowe died at age 81, and was buried on 17/11/1844. At the 1851 census we find an 82 year old widower named John James living at Great Sellan, Sancreed, in the household of a 57 year old Sarah Rowe, whose occupation is "Small Shop Keeper Grocer". John James' occupation is "tea dealer". The others in the household are Sarah's nieces Lucy Ann Rowe (10) and Elizabeth Rowe (14). There is no doubt that Lucy Ann Rowe was Lucy Anne Doddridge Rowe, baptized on 2/8/1840, the daughter of James Rowe the shoemaker. James, with his wife Mary and five other children, was also living at Great Sellan. I had a great deal of difficulty identifying Elizabeth, but I have come to the conclusion that she must actually be Mary Elizabeth Brokenshaw Rowe, the elder sister of Lucy who was baptized on 11/5/1837. In any case it is clear that the Sarah Rowe at Great Sellan in 1851 is the same Sarah Rowe who was at Trerice in 1841, the daughter of John Rowe. It is unfortunate for my theory that the 1851 census record of Sarah Rowe's houshold does not specify the relationship between John James and Sarah Rowe. I think that he should have been described as her uncle, since his late wife Elizabeth was Sarah's father's sister.
I cannot be totally certain that the John James in Sarah Rowe's 1851 household was Richard James' father, but my guess is that he was. He died in 1857, buried on 30/1/1857. There is a photograph of his grave in the Sancreed album of Mark Hattam's gallery. The inscription on the gravestone reads as follows: "In Memory of John James, of this parish, (For many years highly esteemed as a Wesleyan local preacher.) Who died Jan 26th 1857, Aged 87 Years. This stone is erected as a tribute of respect, to one of whom it might be said, "Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom There is no Guile." Note that burial record has his age as 88 even though the gravestone says 87. If 88 is correct then he could have been the son of James and Rebecca James baptized at St Just in Penwith on 4/4/1768. (Note that the census record gives his birthplace as St Just.)
I have not been able to discover anything about Richard James' elder brother John (baptized on 20/7/1794). There was also a John James baptized on 20/5/1792, and another baptized on 3/1/1802. In each case the parents were named Thomas and Elizabeth; however, since there may well have been two couples named Thomas and Elizabeth James, we cannot conclude that the John born in 1792 died before 1802. A John James was buried in 1822, but his age at death was 26, and this does not match any of the baptisms. There were also three marriages: John James married Mary Warren on 5/8/1822, John James married Margery Hix on 31/12/1823, and John James married Mary Rowe on 29/12/1827. In each case the groom and bride were both of Sancreed parish. In the 1851 census we find a 46 year old John James with a 48 year old wife named Mary; it looks fairly certain that this is the couple who were married in 1827, and the husband is certainly not the John James baptized in 1794. We also find in the 1851 census that John James husband of Margery is 59, a little older than we would expect if he were baptized in 1794. So while it is not impossible that Margery's husband was Richard's brother, my guess is that he was not.
Richard James and family
In 1847 the Phoebe brought 230 immigrants to South Australia from London and Plymouth, arriving on March 27th. The passenger list includes a widower named Richard James and his three children, whose names are not given, as well as Elizabeth James, Sally James, Mary Jane James and Catherine James. Recall (see above) that at the time of the 1841 census Richard and Sarah James had eight children: Elizabeth, Sally, Mary Jane, Catherine, John, Richard, William and Thomas. It turns out that before the end of 1842 the two youngest boys had died and another daughter was born. So the three children referred to on the passenger list evidently were John and Richard, and the youngest daughter, Eliza.
Sancreed parish records include the following baptisms:
The second youngest son, William, is missing, but his birth was registered in the September quarter of 1838.
Sancreed parish records also include the following burials:
(The fact that these two children were from Trerice is recorded on the Sancreed OPC's list of burials.)
I do not know how or when Richard's wife Sarah died; apparently there is no Sancreed burial record for her. Deaths of women named Sarah James were registered at Penzance in the September quarter of 1845 and the June quarter of 1846.
A South Australian family history web site has a searchable list of pre-1850 immigrants and has attempted to identify the immigrants with people appearing in later South Australian records. They guessed that Richard's three children on the passenger list were all girls, named Margaret, Mary and Eliza. I prefer my guess: two boys (John and Richard) and one girl (Eliza).
Richard James died on June 30th 1887, and is buried at Mount Torrens in the Adelaide Hills. The following words of C. Varley appear on his gravestone:
A long eventful life its course has run,
The labour, trial and troubles all are done,
This is the end of all life's restless tide,
The universal epitaph "He died".
Forgotten here another life's begun,
A race that for the saved is never run,
Peace, rest and joy to his belov'd Christ gives,
And ransomed ones in heaven shout "He lives".
From records and information passed down through the family I know that Elizabeth James married Thomas Hutchens, and that Mary Jane James married William Hicks. A search of South Australian marriage and birth records uncovered information relating to the other James children.
Elizabeth James m. Thomas Hutchens, 1850.
A Sarah James (age 21) m. John Jonas (age 21) on 9/3/1850 at Wesleyan Chapel. However, this was apparently not Sally Harvey James, since there is a death registration of Salley Harvey James, aged 77, unmarried, resident of Mount Torrens, died 21/7/1906. She is buried with her father. Observe that on her gravestone her name is given as "Sarah".
Catherine James (age 24) m. James Ebenezer Stroud (age 23) on 14/7/1856; they had children named Francis Joseph (29/3/1857 at Stepney) and Adelaide Grace (3/6/1859 at Woolshed Flat).
Mary Jane James (age 28) m. William Hicks (son of Armon Hicks) on 26/4/1859; they had children named Mary Jane (9/4/1860–30/4/1882), William (17/7/1862), Armon (24/3/1864), Elizabeth (16/3/1866), Richard James (8/10/1872–11/2/1949) and Frank Henry (13/12/1874–3/3/1884), all born at Mt Torrens. William's age at his marriage is recorded as 37, while the death record gives his age on 29/1/1901 as 87. Yet his gravestone (at Mount Torrens) clearly states his age as 91 years.
Mary Jane's gravestone is not as legible as William's. It is in the shape of a cross, with the word "mother" clearly displayed, and on the base it is just possible to read
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A John James (age 22) m. Eliza Trenouth on 25/12/1855. At first sight it appears that the groom's age is not right for him to be the John James who was baptized on 3/4/1834; however, it is possible that he was not baptized until he was four months old, and if so then he would indeed have been 22 on 25/12/1855. Eliza (or Elizabeth) Trenouth is relevant to this genealogy in any case, as the daughter of William Trenowth and Phillis Hutchens (who appear on the John and Sarah Hutchens page). Observe that the ages and death dates for John and Eliza given on their gravestone – namely 78 and 27/4/1912 for John and 83 and 26/2/1911 for Eliza – are consistent with their baptism dates of 3/4/1834 and 24/2/1828.
John and Eliza had children named Amelia (22/7/1858), John (18/11/1859), William (11/6/1861), Charles Thomas (4/9/1862), Eliza Jane (2/11/1864) and Armon (13/10/1867), all born at Woodside. The occurrence of the name "Armon", perhaps honouring John James' sister's father-in-law, adds support to the conjecture this is the "right" John James. John and Eliza James are both buried in the Wesleyan Church Cemetery at Woodside, the same cemetery in which John James' sister Elizabeth is buried with her husband Thomas Hutchens.
Richard James (age 26) m. Christina Emma Smith (age 20, daughter of William Jonson Smith) on 30/4/1863; they had children named Mary (24/3/1864), Harriet Alse (9/11/1865–1/7/1956), Christina Emma (24/6/1867), Alice Edith (20/5/1869), Richard (7/8/1870), Henry (30/4/1872–11/4/1938), Frederick (3/5/1874 ), Emily Sarah (7/12/1876–1/4/1900), Robert John (24/12/1878), Florence Frances (1881–7/3/1965) and Percival Johnson (21/7/1884), all born at Mt Torrens.
Richard died on March 10th 1906 and Christina Emma died Feb 5th 1936; they are buried at Mount Torrens with their daughter Emily Sarah. The barely legible gravestone (on the left below) gives Richard's age at death as 69 years, Christina's age at death as 91 years, and Emily's age at death as 23 years.
Eliza James (age 19) m. John Thomas Bartholomew (age 22, son of Thomas Bartholomew) on 22/4/1861; they had children named Susan (7/2/1864), John (12/3/1866), Richard James (16/9/1868), Thomas Henry (12/8/1871), Annie Elizabeth (14/10/1874) and William Froud (31/3/1877), all born at Mt Torrens. It is possible that John Thomas Bartholomew's father was the Thomas Bartholomew who married Susan Putland in Newhaven, Sussex, in the December quarter of 1838, and came to South Australia in 1839 on the Buckinghamshire.
Eliza and John Thomas Bartholomew are both buried in the Mt Torrens Cemetery; their gravestones are shown on this page. Evidently John Thomas was known by his second name. Observe that the date of Eliza's death is the same as the date of the birth of her last child.
If you have any corrections, complaints, criticisms, suggestions or additional information, please email bobhow@tpg.com.au.